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in a sort of need each other as information sources and they believed it was biden who is leaking to eric cantor is speaker boehner was pursuing separate talks with obama during the so-called talks of which eric cantor was livid and ultimately what data this talks almost certainly because the dynamics going on with honor. that is the excuse he gave was that democrats will low. this is how childish you? >> guest: the question i'm going to ask is if eric cantor what passed john boehner, he wouldn't hesitate to push them, would you? >> guest: is it even-tempered sort. unless the moment is absolutely right, you tend not to get ahead of declaring a mutiny. >> host: said there senescence? >> interestingly, working more in the middle is the majority whip, kevin mccarthy. the carthy has been in for three terms and so in a lot of ways he's practically a freshman himself and recruited a number of the freshman, became an away the big brother to them, was a clever move on mccarthy's part because the freshman from a block 87 have been the straw that has stirred the drink of the 112th congress. to the
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